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I think the word publicly lobby is important one...you are native to think that the support offered by the national governments of the development partners did not have an influence on the selection decisions.
Influence like the SU A350 deal?
Door swings both ways dude.
I completely agree with you, and there are many more examples on both sides...and in other industries, it is simply a win-win scenario for both parties.
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And just how much in tax breaks and otehr incentives has Airbus equally had? I dont hear them "confessing" these either at the WTO

Likewise for Boeing, why don't they confess in their WTO submission as well....my point is that they are equally as guilty, and I find it very hypocritical of Boeing.
As yourself these questions:
Why did Boeing wait until 2003/2004 (the exact date alludes me) to withdraw from the exisiting Bilateral agreement on large aircraft development between the EU and USA ?
What product did they launch shortly after the withdrew from the bilateral arrangment ?
Is the WTO case really about the damage inflicted on Boeing in the past, or is really about protecting Boeing's future in the 787?
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Why should Boeing refund soveriegn states own investment?
Its their own money, and they'll reap whatever benefits/loss associated with their respective choice of investment. If anything, your example is better suited to Airbus, which has yet to repay the taxpayers in full across the EU for the last 25 years for systematic rape of the public purse

Think of it this way....EADS is a registered company of Netherlands, it's suppliers to Airbus S.A.S. are Airbus UK Ltd, Airbus France S.A.S., Airbus Deutchland and Airbus Espania...therefore by your own arguement, the French, German, UK and Spainsh Government can do whatever they wish.
How is this arrangment any different to the soveriegn state funding of Italy, Japan etc ?
It is not....it is just different company names. My point is this, clearly Boeing is benefiting from the very same state support that the EU states have given Airbus.
Ask yourself this question....Has the taxpayer's money that went into all the NASA research projects that Boeing has particpated in ever been paid back ?
I know the arguement, that results of NASA research is free available to all....but think of this analogy.
Say the taxpayer gave me £1000 to investigate the experience of sky diving. As this investigation is publicly funding I agree to video tape and instrument myself during the dive to record all the data.
I then write a report afterwards with some captures from the video recording my facial expressions, and include some EKG traces.
So now you would be fully able to comment on the experience of sky diving just by reading my report ?